I also appreciate they use a different species of cow in Europe. Lee Dexter: likely not a reliable source (ref: http://www.austinpost.org/article/local-farm-plagued-legal-problems). Mike saysI like the taste of UHT milk. “Just like we who support raw milk will go to sites of people who are saying raw milk is bad and try to convince them otherwise. Check yourself on that please. I do fine with cream and butter (goat or cow), but start to have problems after only a small amount of goat, sheep or Jersey milks. What happens to the vitamins and minerals in raw milk when it is treated to UHT processing? This article made me more aware now of what organic label stands for . They were signs of casein immune disruption in childhood.”. They sell them warm, sitting on tables the way we sell donuts in the grocery store. And I like that it doesn’t spoil in a week. If you compare labels the nutritional data indicates that the natural vitamin value of milk is destroyed by the UHT process, and in products specifically for children a short list of vitamins is added…but I suspect that a long list of other necessary vitamins and nutritional compounds found in fresh milk simply do not get into the diet of many people. http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-foods/ultra-pasteurized-milk Even the grass fed cows have mexicans picking up tubes out of the cows shit and sticking on to the udders, you know where that fecal matter ends up? I try for raw but when I can’t get it I have a back up milk from a local farm that does SLOW pasteurization and NO homoginization! What is your response to this?? I appreciate the supporting the documentation you provided. David Gamble saysNo one should drink cows milk of any kind! With The UHT milk available in the UK, it is entirely possible, indeed recommended by yoghurt machine manufacturers. KristenM saysActually, I *do* “freak out” about those things, and I don’t buy them or feed them to my family.That’s, in fact, one of the main premises behind this blog.To read more about the philosophy that prompts the posts on this site, please read my About page.Also, please refrain from personal attacks. Pseudo-scientific nonsense. I used to be an acne skin always, during adolescence. I love uht milk. I’m confused. =-. In US cows can be fed from chicken crap processed with beef meat reprocessed. Commenter saysRaw milk is not necessarily antibiotic or hormone free. Artificial foods began during WWII so that troops could carry such products as C rations and K rations and dry Tang they could mix with water on their body where there were no mess tents on the battlefields. Abandoning pizza, chips, soda, etc. That really doesn’t surprise me. WakeUpC22 saysAs many of the posters have pointed out, KristenM’s original statement about kefir is simply wrong in regards to UHT milk. This milk is also good for making yogurt. These infected cows could give people with a weak immune system (e.g., HIV+, cancer) TB of the stomac,untreated it will kill you. She told me that I had adrenal fatigue but didn’t really do anything for it. It’s been going on for years now and would like an answer or some kind of relief for it. We don’t suffer from it but I know others who do. You suggest this is a healthy alternative, and I’ve read it is healthier than yogurt because of its higher probiotic count. Jeanette Kobak-Tartaglia via Facebook says. If a product will not support microscopic life, it is not likely to support human life.” make it difficult to judge what is a legitimate concern and what is hyperbolic scaremongering. It can’t be completely dead if it undergoes this process can it? Non UHT grassfed organic non-homogenized cow milk the rest of they year. Authors deliberately create controversy to get more traffic, comments, debates, etc. The best tasting I have ever had. The laws that protect the consumer are rigorous. Hi Lara, Cow saysSo it’s mostly down to personal taste. Organic valley is my go to because I can’t always get raw milk. Yuck. I have experienced major leaky gut problems, i couldn’t lay down or sit comfortably due to this problem. In old times children with milk allergies were simply fed the milk from other animals, for example goats. The effect on casein is negligible. Micah Peet via Facebook saysOrganic milk is more likely to be ultrapasteurized because the milk is harder to get, more expensive to produce and needs to keep long enough to be distributed over a larger area in order to reach the smaller customer base.Reply Boy did we hear a lot of colourful language during those weeks. Sorry, but I don’t trust most raw milk producers in my area and I can’t justify the cost anyway, and milk isn’t a staple of my diet.Reply Gayle Roberts Krupin via Facebook saysFood Renegade, you don’t add salt when soaking almonds?Reply I found this out with my daughter with severe allergies to Holstein milk which is the most common milk cow in many countries. Oestrogen causes breast cancer in some people, so destroying it is beneficial and would make it better than normal milk.Reply Sure, you can put it on your cereal, but there’s little else you can do with it. In ways you have to be a renegade today. And I am actually getting a lot of stress. And please consider that low heat pasteurization may be the balance we need in keeping milk nutritious while eliminating food borne pathogens. .-= Jenny @ Nourished Kitchen´s last blog post …A Recipe- Coconut Flour Cake with Coconut Frosting =-.Reply …and maybe because it seems “unnatural” for it to not need refrigeration. And, yes, FunFacts, there is a condition called leaky gut syndrome. We are always able to use the amount in the carton in a timely manner. ‘The way God intended it’? Fabulous read, I highly recommend it for all women, not just when you have an issue. But now with this new info regarding Holstein also being A2/A2 cows, it’s become massively confusing once again. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Clay saysThank you for your information I have 313 box of milk and thare all going right in the trash can your a godsend and it’s been a real pleasure I’m a big fan of yours and you can and have make and made a big difference It’s just so sad what they put on and in food now days i just found out I’m not effected by milk products well not all of them just the ones with uht in them Thank you very muchReply Never mind Charlie — I’d love to be in Jenny’s shoes, that’s where I’d like to be! I cannot do a vegan lifestyle but other people can. SummerSunflower saysThere is honestly nothing wrong with UHT milk. Of course, later, the government started to require labels showing the fat content– skim or 2%–but by then, we were being told low fat was better for us anyway. We just used a little bit of common sense.Thanks Kristin!! You have a skewed view based on your culture and the cohort cold milk you seem to support. re: the bleeding. helping me think twice. UHT pasteurized milk is fully capable of supporting bacterial cultures for cheese or yogurt. We are vegetarian, no eggs as well. Helena Ellison via Facebook saysI drink Organic Valley Milk.Reply And here’s a link to a reference that actually works. The government wants you to believe that cooking your chicken is good for you!!! It taste is quite creamy then other milks. http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-50532011001100014 I had no idea New Horizons used the same pasteurization methods as paramalat. I make yoghurt all the time from scratch using UHT milk. Anyone who had milk at all considered themselves to be extremely lucky, and this would very often have been added to such a cooked concoction.I also suspect that people in the past weren’t clueless about the health risks of consuming raw milk as-is, and probably, just as they did with local water sources (which were also often risky), they used various methods to treat the milk, cooking being probably the easiest.Reply However, Recombined UHT milk is lower, and is ssignificantly lower after storage for six months. In third world countries there are a plethora of diseases in raw milk. I think I’m gonna keep buying UHT milk and pride myself on not having standards so hyperattenuated that I’m going to reject a food that is for all reasonable purposes harmless and tastes perfectly bloody fine to most of us. Is breast augmentation the best for pcos patients? As I posted below: “”Rapid heat treatments like pasteurization, and especially ultra-pasteurization, actually flatten the molecules so the enzymes cannot do their work” citation: Weston Price. UHT is find, I have been drinking it for years and in some cases its better for those who have issues with other milk products. No more medication. That is why I drink hazelnut milk. A regular milk carton isn’t sealed and treated like a UHT carton and it would still spoil quickly if unopened. People seem to need to be divided in this issue, to have a reason to hate others… or to demonize certain foods. Thanks for bringing some actual science to the comments section. I think Organic Valley’s new grass fed milk is not. Maybe I’ll just go organic. Since, we had more than a few experiences of the same type, and were heating the milk to just below boiling for three minutes to save ourselves the agony of more illness, even though it was my understanding that we were denaturing both proteins and vitamins(although UHT had probably done that denaturing already). Raw, generally not sold in supermarkets, fresh pasturised in full cream, 2% or fat free, which only lasts a couple of days in the fridge, and the same three choices of long life (your UHT) and lactose free, usually soya milk. bill saysI’ve been making yogurt for the last 3 years using UHT milk. Jag Rawat via Facebook saysSuch milk has to be produced in designated dairies. Check your science in PubMed or Google Scholar. Still, pretty sure milk from Guernsey and Jersey(my favorite) cows is far better than the milk from the far more prevalent Holsteins. It was 4 months on and 4 months off in the first year. Check your science in PubMed or Google Scholar. As long as cleanliness is followed, raw milk is not only more nutritional but perfectly safe. That gave the dairy business the opportunity to skim the cream off and use it for products like butter and ice cream. – What are those “lactose-free” UHT milk products? Which would rather have: ultra-pasteurized milk that kills nearly all bacteria, or an infection of Mycobacterium Avium subspecies Paratuberculosis (MAP), a particularly heat-resistant bacteria found in at least 12% of tested U.S. milk herds and is the suspected cause of Crohn’s Disease, a lifelong, incurable, horribly painful affliction that involves multiple surgeries in which one’s bowel is removed? Sure its not a lot, but these are how diseases are born and spread. Not everyone can drink raw milk: please read about listeria. It has practically no stimulant effect on the central nervous system. I think your conclusion is 180 degrees out from what the author was trying to say, but I agree with you. I would not use raw unless the milk is from my own animals. Not today saysThis article is plain bullshit. I currently have my period, and lo and behold, for the first time in a couple of years it’s not painful! This piece is devoid of factual information.Reply Why wouldn’t I see breast development after losing excess fat & therefore correcting the cause (Insulin Resistance, PCOS)? Here’s a list: https://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/arkansas/#ar, And another thing . they are using Australian UHT…, There are so many wrong statements in this webpage, I don’t know where to start. Baller sayslearned a lot from the article but nothing to deter me from UHT milk lolReply I say yes to UHT milk any day! Maybe risky today or maybe not. It wasn’t. Tatjana saysWell, unless you have a cow in your backyard, you don’t really know what you are drinking “in your milk”, they don’t write on the package what a farmer has been feeding the cow…. but, acne causes for many reasons even for milk. When the date on the milk arrived, we continued to drink it, as there was no smell or consistency issues. Nobody was fat, or had any hormonal conditions. Those who state UHT is bad and suggest its not good for our health are liars. I’m sure you know this already. They showed that when they came to America to rape the land.Reply I use Yogourmet yogurt starter or just propogate the culture from previous batches. Just curious. For children raised in western Europe, this is how milk tastes. STOP COOKING CHICKEN!! I am sure that raw milk in general is healthier but what I really want most is to have the CHOICE…. Human, goat and sheep milk rarely causes a problem. In your post you say that heating milk denatures enzymes in the milk so that it cannot be digested. But it made me very ill, until I started drinking UHT milk. Theobromine (3,7-dimethylxanthine) is the principle alkaloid in Theobroma cacao (the cacao bean) and other plants. My father used to drink a lot of milk daily till he got a kidney stone.Anyway, I think all of you are making a much bigger deal than it should beReply Mary saysGood that you spoke up, Alan! There’s a local dairy that gently pasteurizes their milk and doesn’t homogenize it. So labels are one thing while knowing WHERE your beef comes from is another.Also NO ONE has conclusive, sweeping, end all be all long term conclusions on the effects of GMOs, animal products from animals eating GMOs, as well as processed foods. How does dairy cause heavy pain and bleeding? How about a can of tuna? Not me, and not you, so why worry?What about the raw milk you put in your tea and coffee? Amy saysThe problem with this whole raw milk vs other milk issue is that not everyone will have access to raw milk itself. . This is such a commonly held belief that even on the A2 milk company’s website, this information is repeated. Raw milk is undeniably better – if you’re drinking /raw milk/. It is also entitled to assume that everyone can have access to raw milk – short life span and expensive. I would just be sitting and the pain would be intense. “It’s beneficial bacteria that line our gut that help the human body to develop appropriate immune responses” Could it take a while for lack of dairy to take the pain away or should I see a difference by now? In this case, it really does endanger people and there needs to be a little accountability.Reply It is a great pity Americans are being subjected to the same profit-motivated regulations as in Europe, where UHT is king, where the EU apparently is about to permit feeding animal protein to cattle, chickens, pigs, etc. I love milk and still drink milk everyday and i have for over 30 years. Previously, Swaisgood and coworkers used immobilized sulfhydryl oxidase to reduce the thiol content of UHT-heated skim milk and described an improved flavor after enzymatic oxidation to form protein disulfide bonds (Swaisgood et al., 1987). yes! Never have I or anyone I know had burnt milk.The reason for this is UHT milk is heated to 72°C (161.6°F) for at least 15 seconds, The longer time at a lower temperature lowers the chances of the milk burning while sterilizing the milk!In Australia by law UHT milk cannot have any additives unless it’s a flavored drink and then just normal milk flavorings and coloring’s that you would find in any floured milk drink (Strawberry, Banana, Ice Coffee etc).Unflavored UHT is 100% Milk with nothing added, The laws in australia are very strict about saying whats in our food and drinks!Reply Mike Nyman saysThis story is extremely dangerous. I hate that all the milk and cream are uht now and I wish it had never been invented, Such milk has to be produced in designated dairies. It seems like the proteins of the milks irritates my nervous or emotional systems in some unknown way. They still don’t believe me that it’s good for you, too. On every Navy ship I’ve deployed on, we had UHT milk. I do want her to enjoy her school and play for couple more years at least and grow taller. I was under the impression that Jersey cows are the only ones the produce a mix of A2/A1 milk (majority A2 – mid volume) and all other breeds are either A2 ( Guernsey – Low volume) or A1 (Holstein – high volume). You will always find a supporting piece of science when it comes to food and drugs to support your bend. We then chill it, and bottle it in glass bottles. My daughter was highly allergic to milk in the states. I want to improve on hormone therapy rather than surgery. In your post you say that heating milk denatures enzymes in the milk so that it cannot be digested. Hmm… in the times of raw milk (my mother’s generation), the problems of digesting milk weren’t there. Thanks! Audi saysWhat, exactly, do you mean by “raw milk?”Reply Hi Sarah, Yes, that’s the same study I link to the article. There were no problems! Another week passed and it still did not smell nor did it curdle. I’m not sure. BTW all sorts of things that are awful for us “taste delicious”. As a child it would make me feel very sick and give me a headache if I drank. So what if it “alters” some of the nutrient content. Your email address will not be published. This is not always so. John Wright saysFrom Ontario Canada. Hello I do love this blog and have today just received my first kefirgrains. These infected cows could give people with a weak immune system (e.g., HIV+, cancer) TB of the stomac,untreated it will kill you. 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